Branching from Margaret
Livingston (generation 15)
and
The Douglas Family
Branching from Anne or
Agnes Douglas (generation 18)
The line
Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Livingston
25
generations, back to 1300 in Scotland
includes
King James I and King Robert III of Scotland
Links from names go to Wikipedia www.wikipedia.org or The Peerage www.thepeerage.com
1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007
1 Lila Pearl Seltzer b. May 27, 2010
daughter of
2
Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md.
Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18,
1976
2 Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989
children of
3 Richard Warren (8) Seltzer, Jr. (b. Feb. 23 1946 Clarksville, TN) md. (1) July 28, 1973 Boston, MA Barbara Ann Hartley (1950-2012), md. (2) Sept. 27, 2015 Marilyn Lender (b. Aug. 22, 1945, NY, NY)
Richard = son of
4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923
Helen = daughter of
5 Smith William Estes ( June 17, 1881 - Dec. 20, 1943) md. in Philadelphia, PA 1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)
Smith = son of
6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)
Louis = son of
7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)
Albert = son of
8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN) md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)
Sarah = daughter of
9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776in Chesterfield County, VA Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary
Daniel = son of
10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)
James = son of
11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)
Susannah = daughter of
12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Colonel Charles was born on December 10th, 1659 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. Colonel Charles' father was John FLEMMING and his mother was Mrs. Mercy Or Mary FLEMING. His paternal grandparents were Captain Alexander FLEMING and Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. He had four brothers and a sister, named William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia. He died at the age of 57 on October 7th, 1717 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Susanna was born in Of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va. Susanna's father was Stephen TARLETON and her mother is Susanna. She had a sister named Judith. She died after October 7th, 1717 in St.peters Parish, New Kent.
"Colonel Charles and Susanna were married in a religious ceremony in New Kent, Virginia. They had two sons and eight daughters, named Colonel John, Tarleton, Susannah, Elizabeth, Judith, Ursula, Anne, Grace, Anne and Sarah.
Charles = son of
13 John Fleming (b. 1627 Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register)
Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 86 indicates that according to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___. She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton." John Fleming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born in 1627 in Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John's father was Captain Alexander FLEMING and his mother was Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Margaret LIVINGSTON; his maternal grandparents are William ANDERSON and MRS. ANDERSON. He had a brother and two sisters, named John, Elizabeth and Alexia. He died at the age of 59 on April 27th, 1686 in Charles Parish, York Co., Virginia. His burial was on April 30th, 1686 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Mrs. Mercy or Mary was born about 1637 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. She died in , New Kent, Va.
"John and Mrs. Mercy or Mary were married in a religious ceremony in , , , England. They had five sons and a daughter, named Colonel Charles, William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia."
John = son of
14 Alexander Fleming (b. 1612 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Dec. 30, 1668 Rappahannock Co., VA) md. Elizabeth (AKA Elspet) Anderson (b. 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Oct. 6, 1656 Rappahannock Co., VA)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Captain Alexander was born about 1612 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Captain Alexander's father was John FLEMING and his mother was Margaret LIVINGSTON. His paternal grandparents were John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and Lillias Lilias GRAHAM; his maternal grandfather was Alexander LIVINGSTON and his maternal grandmother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. He had two brothers and six sisters, named John, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret. He died on December 30th, 1668 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Elizabeth (Elspet) was born about 1614 in Of Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Elizabeth (Elspet)'s father is William ANDERSON and her mother is MRS. ANDERSON. Her paternal grandfather is John ANDERSON. She was an only child. She died on October 6th, 1656 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Captain Alexander and Elizabeth (Elspet) were married in a religious ceremony about 1632 in Scotland. They had two sons and two daughters, named John, John, Elizabeth and Alexia."
Alexander = son of
15 Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634) md. John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland) (His line)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland. John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM. His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel. He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. His burial was in Scotland.
"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna. She died in 1634.
"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland. They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.
Margaret = daughter of
16 Alexander Livingston (1561-1621) md. Eleanor Hay (1565-1630)
Alexander = son of
17 William Livingston (1528-1502), 6th Lord Livingston of Callandar md. Agnes Fleming (1535-1597), daughter of Malcolm Fleming (1494-1547) (His line) md. Janet Stewart (1500-1562) (Her line)
William = son of
18 Alexander Livingston (1500-1551), 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar md. Anne or Agnes Douglas (1494-1547)
According to Wikipedia: "Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston of Callandar (c.1500 – 1553) was the guardian of Mary I of Scotland during her childhood. Alexander Livingston succeeded his father to the title of Lord Livingston in about 1518. His first wife was Janet Stewart. After her death, he married Lady Agnes Douglas, daughter of John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton, and by her he had eight children. Lord Livingston became Queen Mary's guardian in about 1543. One of his daughters was Mary Livingston, who became a lady-in-waiting to the queen. When Queen Mary went to France in 1548 following her betrothal to the Dauphin, Livingston accompanied her, and remained there until he died. His lineal descendant was the Rev. John Livingston father of Robert Livingston the Elder of New York."
Anne or Agnes = daughter of
19 John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (1459-1512) md. Janet Crichton (1461-1493)
According to Wikipedia: "John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (died 1513) was the son of James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton and Princess Joan Stewart. He was a grandson of James I of Scotland. He became earl in 1493, upon his father's death. He was succeeded by his son James Douglas, 3rd Earl of Morton. His daughter Agnes married Alexander Livingston, 5th Lord Livingston."
According to Wikipedia: "John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton (1466-1513) married Janet Crichton (died 1515).
John = son of
20 James Douglas (1426-1493) md. Joan Stewart (1428-1493), daughter of King James I of Scotland (1394-1437) ([His line) md. Joan Beaufort (1406-1445) (Her line)
According to Wikipedia: "James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton (died 1493) was created Earl of Morton in 1458. He was a descendant of Agnes Dunbar, 4th Countess of Moray (known as "Black Agnes of Dunbar"). He married Princess Joan Stewart (1429 - c. 1488), daughter of James I, King of Scots. His wife was buried in Dalkeith Church, Dalkeith. They were the parents of four children; Janet, Elizabeth, James and John Douglas, 2nd Earl of Morton."
According to Wikipedia: "Joan Stewart[1] (circa 1428-after 16 October 1486) was the daughter of James I of Scotland and Joan Beaufort. Sent to France in 1445 for education at a nunnery, she later married James Douglas, 1st Earl of Morton and had issue..."
James = son of
21 James Douglas (1407-1458) md. Elizabeth Gifford (1409-1456)
James = son of
22 James Douglas (1383-1441) md. Elizabeth Stewart (1387-1411) daughter of King Robert III of Scotland (1337-1406) (His line) md. Annabella Drummond (1350-1401) Her line]
James = son of
23 James Douglas (1350-1420) md. Agnes Dunbar (1350-1378) 4th Countess of Moray (AKA Black Agnes of Dunar)
John = son of
24 John Douglas (1320-1350) md. Agnes Munfode (1320-1377)
John = son of
25 James Douglas (1300-1323) md. Joan of Scotland (1278-1337)
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