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The line Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Graham-Keith-Gordon/Seton-Stewart-Beaufort/Plantagenet-Holland-Plantagenet-Normandy(30)

48 generations back to about 650 in Sweden

Includes Kings Henry II to Edward I of England (Plantagenet);  Kings William I the Conqueror and Henry I (Normandy);  King James I of Scotland; and Viking kings of Norway and Sweden

 
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1 Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007
2 Lila Pearl Seltzer b. May 27, 2010

daughters of

2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md.  Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976

2 Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989

children of

3 Richard Warren (8) Seltzer, Jr.  (b. Feb. 23 1946 Clarksville, TN) md. (1) July 28, 1973 Boston, MA Barbara Ann Hartley (1950-2012), md. (2) Sept. 27, 2015 Marilyn Lender (b. Aug. 22, 1945, NY, NY)

Richard = son of

4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923

Helen = daughter of

5 Smith William Estes  ( June 17, 1881 - Dec. 20, 1943) md. in Philadelphia, PA  1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)

Smith = son of

6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)

Louis = son of

7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)

Albert = son of

8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN)  md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)

Sarah = daughter of

9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776in Chesterfield County, VA  Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary

Daniel = son of

10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)

James = son of

11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)

Susannah = daughter of

12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Colonel Charles was born on December 10th, 1659 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va.  Colonel Charles' father was John FLEMMING and his mother was Mrs. Mercy Or Mary FLEMING.  His paternal grandparents were Captain Alexander FLEMING and Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. He had four brothers and a sister, named William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia.  He died at the age of 57 on October 7th, 1717 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.

"Susanna was born in Of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.  Susanna's father was Stephen TARLETON and her mother is Susanna. She had a sister named Judith.  She died after October 7th, 1717 in St.peters Parish, New Kent.

"Colonel Charles and Susanna were married in a religious ceremony in New Kent, Virginia.  They had two sons and eight daughters, named Colonel John, Tarleton, Susannah, Elizabeth, Judith, Ursula, Anne, Grace, Anne and Sarah.

Charles = son of

13 John Fleming (b. 1627 Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register)

Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 86 indicates that according to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___.  She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton."  John Fleming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born in 1627 in Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  John's father was Captain Alexander FLEMING and his mother was Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON.  His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Margaret LIVINGSTON; his maternal grandparents are William ANDERSON and MRS. ANDERSON. He had a brother and two sisters, named John, Elizabeth and Alexia.  He died at the age of 59 on April 27th, 1686 in Charles Parish, York Co., Virginia.  His burial was on April 30th, 1686 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.

"Mrs. Mercy or Mary was born about 1637 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va.  She died in , New Kent, Va.

"John and Mrs. Mercy or Mary were married in a religious ceremony in , , , England.  They had five sons and a daughter, named Colonel Charles, William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia."

John = son of

14 Alexander Fleming (b. 1612 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Dec. 30, 1668 Rappahannock Co., VA) md. Elizabeth (AKA Elspet) Anderson (b. 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Oct. 6, 1656 Rappahannock Co., VA)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Captain Alexander was born about 1612 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Captain Alexander's father was John FLEMING and his mother was Margaret LIVINGSTON.  His paternal grandparents were John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and Lillias Lilias GRAHAM; his maternal grandfather was Alexander LIVINGSTON and his maternal grandmother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. He had two brothers and six sisters, named John, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.  He died on December 30th, 1668 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.

"Elizabeth (Elspet) was born about 1614 in Of Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  Elizabeth (Elspet)'s father is William ANDERSON and her mother is MRS. ANDERSON.  Her paternal grandfather is John ANDERSON.  She was an only child.  She died on October 6th, 1656 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.

"Captain Alexander and Elizabeth (Elspet) were married in a religious ceremony about 1632 in Scotland.  They had two sons and two daughters, named John, John, Elizabeth and Alexia."

Alexander = son of

15 John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634)  (Her line)

According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland.  John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM.  His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel.  He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland.  His burial was in Scotland.

"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland.  Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY.  Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna.  She died in  1634.

"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland.  They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.

John = son of

16 Lilias Graham md. Lord John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th Lord Fleming,  first Earl of Wigton in Scotland from 1606 [His line]
"Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a. Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of John, Earl of Montrose.  Her ladyship was distinguished for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to prmoote the principles of the Reformation.  Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the preachings and communions.  While dressing she read the Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one) than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five daughters and was succeeded by his eldes son John who warmly embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone, first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and great piety who entered cordially into the religious views and schemes of her husband.  They not only attended the ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
William and Mary Quarterly, Volume XII (1903) pp. 45-47 by Lyon G. Tyler vies the names of two sons, John and Charles.  "While his second son, Sir Thomas Fleming, is said to have emigrated to the Virginia colony and became the progenitor of the Virginia branch of the family.  Mr. Brock states ('Richmond Standard,' Feb. 7, 1880) that he married Miss Tarleton and had Tartleton, John and Charles.  Mr. Brock's information it is believed, is derived from family tradition.  There is, nevertheless, no mention as far as I have been able to ascertian in the records of Virginia, of any Sir Thomas Fleming.  The earliest perosn of the name was John fleming, who I am inclined to believe was the emigrant". (Lyon G. Tyler)Lilias = daughter of

[Cary-Estes Genealogy pp. 85-87]

Lilias = daughter of

17 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548-1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604  md.  Joan Drummond

John = son of

18 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming d. 1547 [Her line]

Robert = son of

19  Lady Janet Keith md. William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) [His line]

Janet = daughter of

20  Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon md. William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal

Eliza = daughter of

21 Annabella Stewart (1433-1471) md. George Gordon, Earl of Huntly (before 1455-1501), Chancellor of Scotland (1498-1501) [His line]

Annabella = daughter of

22  Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) md. 1424  King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437) [His line]

Joan = daughter of

23 Margaret Holland (1385-1439)  md.  John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset (1371-1410) (His line)

Margaret = daughter of

24 Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent (1350 - April 25, 1397), councillor of his half-brother King Richard II md. Alice FitzAlan , daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster [Her line]

Thomas = son of

25 Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England  md. Thomas Holland, 1st Earl Earl of Kent (c. 1314 - Dec. 26, 1360) military commander during the Hundred Years' War [His line]

Joan = daughter of

26 Edmund of Woodstock, 1st Earl of Kent (Plantagenet)  (Aug. 5, 1301 - March 19, 1330 executed for treason) md. Margaret Wake, 3rd Baroness Wake, descendant of Llywelyn the Great, Prince of Gwynedd [Her line]

Edmund = son of

27 King Edward I of England "Longshanks" (June 14, 1229 - July 7, 1307) reigned 1272-1307 md. Marguerite of France (1282 - Feb. 14, 1317), daughter of King Philip III of France md. Maria of Brabant [Her line]

Edward = son of

28 Henry III, King of England (Plantagenet) (1207-1272) reigned 1216-1272) md. Eleanor of Provence (c. 1223-1291) (daughter of Ramon Berenguer IV, Count of Provence (1198-1245) and Beatrice of Savoy (1206-1266)) [Her line]

Henry = son of

29 John I, "Lackland," King of England (Plantagenet)  [Magna Carta] (1166-1216) reigned 1199-1216) md. Isabella of Angoulême (1187-1246) (daughter of Aymer Taillefer, Count of Angouleme) [Her line]

John = son of

30 Henry II, King of England (Plantagenet) (1133-1189) reigned 1154-1189) md. Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) (daughter of William X, Duke of Aquitaine, and duchess, Aenor de Châtellerault) [Her line]

Henry = son of

31 Empress Matilda (1102-1110), briefly (contested) the first female ruler of England in 1141 (widow of Henry V Holy Roman Emperor) md. Geoffrey V Count of Anjou and Maine by inheritance, and Duke of Normandy by conquest 1144 the Handsome (Plantagenet) (Aug. 24, 1113 - Sept. 7 1151)[His line] .

[Overlaps another line]

Matilda = daughter of

32 Henry I, King of England  "Beauclerc" (1068/1069-1135) reigned 1100-1135) md. Matilda of Scotland AKA Edith, (c. 1080-1118) (the daughter of Malcolm III King of Scotland, who was the son of Duncan I, King of Scotland, who was murdered by Macbeth) [Her line]

Henry = son of

33 William the Conqueror, King of England (1027-1087) reigned 1066-1087 md. 1053 Matilda of Flanders  (c. 1031-1083 (daughter of count Baldwin V of Flanders md. Adela Capet (1000-1078/9), daughter of Robert II "The Pious", King of  France) [Her line]

William = son of

34 Robert I "The Magnificent" (1000-1035), Duke of Normandy and his mistress Herleve (1003-1050)

Robert = son of

35 Richard II "The Good" (963-1027), Duke of Normandy d. 1026 md. Judith de Rennes (982- 1017) (daughter of Conan I of Brittany (927-992)) [Her line]

Richard = son of

36 Richard I "The Fearless" (933-996), Duke of Normandy  md. Gunnor (936-1031)

Richard = son of

37 William  I "Longsword" (893- 942), Second Duke of Normandy md. Sprota

William = son of

38 Rollo (860-932) founder and first ruler of the Viking principality that became Normandy md. Poppa
[Overlapping line. We are also descended from Rollo's daigjter Gerloc AKA Adele who married William III of Aquitaine]

According to Wikipedia: "Rollo, occasionally known as Rollo the Viking, (c. 860 - c. 932) was the founder and first ruler of the Viking principality in what soon became known as Normandy. He is also in some sources known as Robert of Normandy, using his baptismal name. The name Rollo is a Frankish-Latin name probably taken from the Old Norse name Hrólfr (cf. the latinization of Hrólfr Kraki into the similar Roluo in the Gesta Danorum, modern Scandinavian name Rolf). Rollo was a Viking leader of contested origin. Dudo of St. Quentin, in his De moribus et actis primorum Normannorum ducum (Latin), tells of a powerful Danish nobleman at loggerheads with the king of Denmark, who then died and left his two sons, Gurim and Rollo, leaving Rollo to be expelled and Gurim killed. William of Jumièges also mentions Rollo's prehistory in his Gesta Normannorum Ducum however he states that he was from the Danish town of Fakse. Wace, writing some 300 years after the event in his Roman de Rou, also mentions the two brothers (as Rou and Garin), as does the Orkneyinga Saga.

"Norwegian and Icelandic historians identified this Rollo with a son of Rognvald Eysteinsson, Earl of Møre, in Western Norway, based on medieval Norwegian and Icelandic sagas that mention a Ganger Hrolf (Hrolf, the Walker). The oldest source of this version is the Latin Historia Norvegiae, written in Norway at the end of the 12th century. This Hrolf fell foul of the Norwegian king Harald Fairhair, and became a Jarl in Normandy. The nickname of that character came from being so big that no horse (or at least not the Norwegian ponies of that era) could carry him.

"The question of Rollo's Danish or Norwegian origins was a matter of heated dispute between Norwegian and Danish historians of the 19th and early 20th century, particularly in the run-up to Normandy's 1000-year-anniversary in 1911. Today, historians still disagree on this question, but most would now agree that a certain conclusion can never be reached.

"In 885, Rollo was one of the lesser leaders of the Viking fleet which besieged Paris under Sigfred. Legend has it that an emissary was sent by the king to find the chieftain and negotiate terms. When he asked for this information, the Vikings replied that they were all chieftains in their own right. In 886, when Sigfred retreated in return for tribute, Rollo stayed behind and was eventually bought off and sent to harry Burgundy.

"Later, he returned to the Seine with his followers (known as Danes, or Norsemen). He invaded the area of northern France now known as Normandy.

"In 911 Rollo's forces were defeated at the Battle of Chartres by the troops of King Charles the Simple. In the aftermath of the battle, rather than pay Rollo to leave, as was customary, Charles the Simple understood that he could no longer hold back their onslaught, and decided to give Rollo the coastal lands they occupied under the condition that he defend against other raiding Vikings. In the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte (911) with King Charles, Rollo pledged feudal allegiance to the king, changed his name to the Frankish version, and converted to Christianity, probably with the baptismal name Robert.[2] In return, King Charles granted Rollo the lower Seine area (today's upper Normandy) and the titular rulership of Normandy, centred around the city of Rouen. There exists some argument among historians as to whether Rollo was a "duke" (dux) or whether his position was equivalent to that of a "count" under Charlemagne. According to legend, when required to kiss the foot of King Charles, as a condition of the treaty, he refused to perform so great a humiliation, and when Charles extended his foot to Rollo, Rollo ordered one of his warriors to do so in his place. His warrior then lifted Charles' foot up to his mouth causing him to fall to the ground.

"Initially, Rollo stayed true to his word of defending the shores of the Seine river in accordance to the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, but in time he and his followers had very different ideas. Rollo began to divide the land between the Epte and Risle rivers among his chieftains and settled there with a de facto capital in Rouen. With these settlements, Rollo began to further raid other Frankish lands, now from the security of a settled homeland, rather than a mobile fleet. Eventually, however, Rollo's men intermarried with the local women, and became more settled as Frenchmen. At the time of his death, Rollo's expansion of his territory had extended as far west as the Vire River.

"Sometime around 927, Rollo passed the fief in Normandy to his son, William Longsword. Rollo may have lived for a few years after that, but certainly died before 933. According to the historian Adhemar, 'As Rollo's death drew near, he went mad and had a hundred Christian prisoners beheaded in front of him in honour of the gods whom he had worshipped, and in the end distributed a hundred pounds of gold around the churches in honour of the true God in whose name he had accepted baptism.' Even though Rollo had converted to Christianity, some of his pagan roots surfaced at the end.

"Rollo is a direct ancestor of William the Conqueror. Through William, he is a direct ancestor and predecessor of the present-day British royal family. The "Clameur de Haro" in the Channel Islands is, supposedly, an appeal to Rollo."

39 Rognvald Eysteinsson, Earl of More in Western Norway, and founder of the Earldom of Orkney int he Norse Sagas

Rognvald = son of

40 Ascrida Rognvaldsdatter md. c. 819  Eystein Ivarsson b. 788 in Maer, Nord-Trondelag, Norway, a "petty" king of Norway (son of Ivar Halfdan the Old an ancient, legendary king from whom descended many of the most notable lineages of legend.)

Ascrida = daughter of

41 Ragnvald (or Rognvald) "the Mountain-High" Olafsson was a petty king of Vestfold in what is today Norway.

Ragnvald = son of

42 Olaf Gudrødsson, or as he was named after his death Olaf Geirstad-Alf, was a legendary Norwegian king of the House of Yngling from the Ynglinga saga. (Brother of Halfdan the Black).

Olaf = son of

43 Gudrød the Hunter. Gudrød the Hunter (Old Norse: Guðr?ðr veiðikonungr, Norwegian: Gudrød Veidekonge) was a semi-legendary king in south-east Norway, during the early Viking Age.

Gudrød = son of

44 Halfdan the Mild of the House of Yngling, King of Romerike and Vestfold in what now in Norway md. Liv daughter of King Dag of Vestmar. Halfdan "was said to be generous in gold but to starve his men with food. He was a great warrior who often pillaged and gathered great booty."

Halfdan = son of

45 Eystein Halfdansson, King of Romerike and Vestfold in what is now Norway md. Hild (daughter of Erik Agnarsson, King of Romerike and Vestfold)

Eystein = son of

46 Halfdan Hvitbeinn, a mythical petty king in Norway (described in Ynglinga saga, written in the 1220s by Snorri Sturluson)  md. Asa (daughter of Eystein, king of Oppland and Hedmark)

Halfdan = son of

47 Olaf Tree Feller or Olof Tratalja of the House of Yngling, sacrificed to Odin by the Swedish settlers in Värmland because of a famine.

Olaf = son of

48  Ingjald III, King of Sweden  md. Gauthild Algautsdottir (7th century), daughter to  Algaut, Geatish King   ruler of West Gotaland according to the Heimskringla. (Snorri Sturluson relates that he was burnt to death by his son-in-law, the Swedish king Ingjald Ill) md. unknown, daughter of Olof the Sharp-Sighted, King of Nerike



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