The line
Seltzer-Estes-Bates-Fleming-Graham-Keith-Gordon/Seton-Stewart-Beaufort/Plantagenet-Hainault-Flanders
Branching
of Margaret II of Flanders (generation 28)
43 generations back to 800 in Flanders. Includes King Edward III of England; Baldwin I Emperor of Constantinople, and a crusader from the Third Crusade.
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1
Adela Rose Seltzer b. Nov. 9, 2007
1 Lila Pearl Seltzer b. May 27, 2010
daughters of
2 Robert Richard Hartley Seltzer b. July 29, 1975 md. Aug. 10, 2002 in Boston, MA Stacey Denenberg b. July 18, 1976
2
Heather Katherine Hartley Seltzer b. August 13, 1977
2 Michael Richard Hartley Seltzer b. June 14, 1980
2 Timothy Richard Hartley Seltzer b. Oct. 5, 1989
children of
3 Richard Warren (8) Seltzer, Jr. (b. Feb. 23 1946 Clarksville, TN) md. (1) July 28, 1973 Boston, MA Barbara Ann Hartley (1950-2012), md. (2) Sept. 27, 2015 Marilyn Lender (b. Aug. 22, 1945, NY, NY)
Richard = son of
4 Helen Estes b. Jan. 31, 1920 md. June 5, 1944 in Philadelphia, PA Richard Warren Seltzer, Sr. b. June 5, 1923
Helen = daughter of
5 Smith William Estes ( June 17, 1881 - Dec. 20, 1943) md. in Philadelphia, PA 1905 May Griffith (1883-1930)
Smith = son of
6 Louis Powhatan Estes (Nov. 22, 1849 - Sept. 6, 1902) md. Oct. 30, 1875 Lily Yates Moore (May 13, 1853 - March 8, 1929) (daughter of S.W. Moore and Mary Yates)
Louis = son of
7 Albert Monroe Estes (Nov. 19, 1804 in Bedford County, VA - Dec. 22, 1863 in Haywood County, TN) md. Nov. 17, 1848 Mildred Colman (daughter of Dr. Benjamin Colman and Mildred Wharton of New Jersey) (c. 1823- Nov. 30, 1849)
Albert = son of
8 Sarah Langhorne Bates (1781- 1825 near Brownsville, Haywood County, TN) md. Oct. 13, 1801 in Chesterfield County, VA Joel Estes (1780-1833) (son of Benjamin Estes and Cecelia Rebecca Thorpe)
Sarah = daughter of
9 Daniel Bates (July 6, 1756 - c. 1801) md. May 21, 1776in Chesterfield County, VA Elizabeth Cary Bell ( b. about 1758 in Virginia, d. 1825 in Kentucky) daughter of David Bell and Judith Cary
Daniel = son of
10 James Bates (March 7, 1721 - Nov. 9, 1786) md. Nov. 11, 1746 in Goochland County, St. James Wortham parish, VA Winnifred Grymes or Grimes or Hix (b. Jan. 18, 1729 in Goochland)
James = son of
11 Susannah Tarleton Fleming md. about 1709 John Bates (1685-1723)
Susannah = daughter of
12 Charles Fleming (b. 1667) (of New Kent County, VA) md. Susannah Tarleton (d. 1687) (daughter of Stephen Tarleton)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Colonel Charles was born on December 10th, 1659 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. Colonel Charles' father was John FLEMMING and his mother was Mrs. Mercy Or Mary FLEMING. His paternal grandparents were Captain Alexander FLEMING and Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. He had four brothers and a sister, named William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia. He died at the age of 57 on October 7th, 1717 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Susanna was born in Of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va. Susanna's father was Stephen TARLETON and her mother is Susanna. She had a sister named Judith. She died after October 7th, 1717 in St.peters Parish, New Kent.
"Colonel Charles and Susanna were married in a religious ceremony in New Kent, Virginia. They had two sons and eight daughters, named Colonel John, Tarleton, Susannah, Elizabeth, Judith, Ursula, Anne, Grace, Anne and Sarah.
Charles = son of
13 John Fleming (b. 1627 Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. April 27, 1686 in New Kent County, VA, St. Peter's Parish Register)
Cary-Estes Genealogy p. 86 indicates that according to "Fleming Family" by Lyon G. Tyler, William and MaryQuarterly Vol. 12, 1093, pp. 45-47, "I think he was the father of Charles Fleming who md. Susannah ___. She was probably a daughter of Stephen Tarleton." John Fleming, 493 acres in New Kent County on south side of Yorke River 2 march 1661 per page 397 Parent Book No. 4.
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born in 1627 in Cumbarnauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. John's father was Captain Alexander FLEMING and his mother was Elizabeth (Elspet) ANDERSON. His paternal grandparents were John FLEMING and Margaret LIVINGSTON; his maternal grandparents are William ANDERSON and MRS. ANDERSON. He had a brother and two sisters, named John, Elizabeth and Alexia. He died at the age of 59 on April 27th, 1686 in Charles Parish, York Co., Virginia. His burial was on April 30th, 1686 in St. Peter's Parish, New Kent, Va.
"Mrs. Mercy or Mary was born about 1637 in Of Charles Parish, York Co., Va. She died in , New Kent, Va.
"John and Mrs. Mercy or Mary were married in a religious ceremony in , , , England. They had five sons and a daughter, named Colonel Charles, William, Alexander, John, Tarleton and Lydia."
John = son of
14 Alexander Fleming (b. 1612 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Dec. 30, 1668 Rappahannock Co., VA) md. Elizabeth (AKA Elspet) Anderson (b. 1614, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. Oct. 6, 1656 Rappahannock Co., VA)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "Captain Alexander was born about 1612 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Captain Alexander's father was John FLEMING and his mother was Margaret LIVINGSTON. His paternal grandparents were John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and Lillias Lilias GRAHAM; his maternal grandfather was Alexander LIVINGSTON and his maternal grandmother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. He had two brothers and six sisters, named John, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret. He died on December 30th, 1668 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Elizabeth (Elspet) was born about 1614 in Of Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. Elizabeth (Elspet)'s father is William ANDERSON and her mother is MRS. ANDERSON. Her paternal grandfather is John ANDERSON. She was an only child. She died on October 6th, 1656 in , Rappahannock Co., Va.
"Captain Alexander and Elizabeth (Elspet) were married in a religious ceremony about 1632 in Scotland. They had two sons and two daughters, named John, John, Elizabeth and Alexia."
Alexander = son of
15 John Fleming (b. Dec. 9, 1589 Kincardine, Perth, Scotland d. May 7 1650 Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland) md. Margaret Livingston (b. about 1587 Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland d. 1634) (Her line)
According to "My Ancestors and Relatives": "John was born on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perth, Scot. and his baptism took place on December 9th, 1589 in Kincardine, Perthshire, Scotland. John's father was John 1St Earl Wigton FLEMING and his mother was Lillias Lilias GRAHAM. His paternal grandparents were John Fleming EARL and Elizabeth ROSS; his maternal grandfather is John GRAHAM and his maternal grandmother was Jean DRUMMOND. He had four brothers and eight sisters, named James, Alexander, FLEMING, Malcolm, Jean, Jean, Anne, Margaret, Sarah, Lillias, Mary and Rachel. He died at the age of 60 on May 7th, 1650 in Cumbernauld, Lanarkshire, Scotland. His burial was in Scotland.
"Margaret was born about 1587 in Of, Callendar, Stirlingshire, Scotland. Margaret's father was Alexander LIVINGSTON and her mother is Eleanor Or Helen HAY. Her paternal grandfather was William LIVINGSTONE and her paternal grandmother is Agnes FLEMING. She had three brothers and a sister, named Alexander, John, James and Anna. She died in 1634.
"John and Margaret were married in a religious ceremony on February 20th, 1609 in Scotland. They had three sons and six daughters, named John, Captain Alexander, William, Eleanor, Ann, Jean, Lilias, Helen and Margaret.
John = son of
16
Lilias Graham md. Lord
John Fleming (1567-1619) 6th
Lord Fleming,
first Earl of Wigton in Scotland
from 1606 [His
line]
"Biggar and the House of Fleming" by William Hunter, F.S.a.
Scot. Pages 551-552, 557:
"Lord Fleming married Lady Lilias Graham, a daughter of
John, Earl of Montrose. Her ladyship was distinguished
for her piety and devotion and her zealous efforts to
prmoote the principles of the Reformation.
Livingstone, in his 'Characterisitcs' says of her, 'When I
was a child I have often seen her at my father's at the
preachings and communions. While dressing she read the
Bible, and every day at that time shed more tears (said one)
than ever I did in my life.'"
"The Earl died in April 1619 leaving three sons and five
daughters and was succeeded by his eldes son John who warmly
embraced his mother's ecclesiastical opinions and was as
zealous of the cause of Presbyterianism as his forefathers
had been in the maintenance of Popery.
"He married Margaret, daughter of Alexander Livingstone,
first Earl of Linlithgow, a lady of amiable disposition and
great piety who entered cordially into the religious views
and schemes of her husband. They not only attended the
ministrations of the settled Protestant clergy, but for some
time maintained a chaplain of their own family." (page 552)
William and Mary Quarterly, Volume XII (1903) pp. 45-47 by
Lyon G. Tyler vies the names of two sons, John and
Charles. "While his second son, Sir Thomas Fleming, is
said to have emigrated to the Virginia colony and became the
progentiro fhte Virginia branch of the family. Mr.
Brock states ('Richmond Standard,' Feb. 7, 1880) that he
married Miss Tarleton and had Tartleton, John and
Charles. Mr. Brock's information it is believed, is
derived from family tradition. There is, nevertheless,
no mention as far as I have been able to ascertian in the
records of Virginia, of any Sir Thomas Fleming. The
earliest perosn of the name was John fleming, who I am
inclined to believe was the emigrant". (Lyon G. Tyler)Lilias
= daughter of
17 John Graham, third Earl of Montrose (1548-1608), Chancellor of the University of St. Andrews 1599-1604 md. Joan Drummond
John = son of
18 Robert Graham md. Margaret Fleming d. 1547 [Her line]
Robert = son of
19 Lady Janet Keith md. William Graham, second Earl of Montrose (1492-1571) [His line]
Janet = daughter of
20 Lady Elizabeth or Eliza Gordon md. William Keith 2nd Earl Marischal
Eliza = daughter of
21 Annabella Stewart (1433-1471) md. George Gordon, Earl of Huntly (before 1455-1501), Chancellor of Scotland (1498-1501) [His line]
Annabella = daughter of
22 Joan Beaufort (1404-1445) md. 1424 King James I of Scotland (Stewart) (1394-1437) [His line]
Joan = daughter of
23 John Beaufort, first Earl of Someset (1371-1410) md. Margaret Holland (1385-1439) (daughter of Thomas Holland, 2nd Earl of Kent, who was the son of Joan "the Fair Maid of Kent", granddaughter of Edward I of England, wife of Edward the Black Prince and mother of Richard II of England) [Her line]
John = son of
24 John of Gaunt (Plantagenet), First Duke of Lancaster (1340-1399) md. Katherine Swynford (1350-1403) (daughter of Payne de Roet a Flemish herald from Hainault) [John was born before they were married]
Richard
II
was his nephew
King Henry IV was his son
John = son of
25 Philippa of Hainault (1314-1369) md. King Edward III of England (Nov. 13, 1312 - June 21, 1377) reigned 1327-1377 [His line]
Philippa = daughter of
26 William I Count of Hainault (1286-1337) md. 1305 Jeanne of Valois (1292-1342) [Her line -- see adela.html]
William = son of
27 John II of Avesnes, Count of Holland (1247 - Aug. 22, 1304) md. Philippa of Luxembourg (1252-1311) [Her line]
John = son of
28 John I of Avesnes, Count of Hainaut (May 1, 1218 - Dec. 24, 1257) md. Adelaide of Holland AKA Aleide (Aleidis) van Holland (c. 1230 - april 9, 1284) [Her line]
John = son of
29 Margaret II Countess of Flanders and Countess of Hainault (1202-1280) md. Bouchard IV of Avesne His line]
Margaret = daughter of
30 Emperor Baldwin I of Constantinople (1172-1205) also known as Baldwin VI Count of Hainault and Baldwin IX Count of Flanders. Iin the Fourth Crusade the Crusaders conquered Constantinople and made Baldwin emperor. md. Marie of Champagne, granddaughter of King Louis VII of France and Eleanor of Aquitaine [Her line]
Baldwin = son of
31 Baldwin V Count of Hainault, AKA Baldwin VIII Count of Flanders and Baldwin I Margrave of Namur (1150-1195) md. Margaret Countess of Flanders
Baldwin = son of
32 Baldwin IV Count of Hainault (1108-1171) md. Alice of Namur
Baldwin = son of
33 Baldwin III Count of Hainault (1088-1120)
Baldwin = son of
34 Baldwin II Count of Hainault (1056-1098?) md. Ida of Leuven
Baldwin = son of
35 Baldwin VI Count of Flanders (1030-1070) md. Richilde, Countess of Mons and Hainault
Baldwin = son of
36 Baldwin V Count of Flanders (d. 1067) md. Adele Capet AKA Adela the Holy, daughter of King Robert II the Pious of France and Constance of Arles
Baldwin = son of
37 Baldwin IV the Bearded, Count of Flanders (980-1035) 7th generation descendant of Charlemagne through his farather and 8th generation through his mother.
Baldwin = son of
38 Arnulf II Count of Falnders (960 or 961-988) of Flanders ) md. Rozala of Lombardy
Alnulf = son of
39 Baldwin III of Flanders (940-962) md. Matilda of Burgundy
Baldwin = son of
40 Arnulf I the Great, Count of Flanders (890-965)
Arnulf = son of
41 Baldwin II Count of Flanders (875-918) md. Aelfthryth (d. 929), daughter of King Alfred the Great of England see more below
Baldwin = son of
42 Baldwin I of Flanders md. Judith, daughter of Charles the Bald Holy Roman Emperor (see below)
Baldwin = son of
43 Audacer
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